Is canned food from the Orient risky?
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Andy M.
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Gee, hope not.
pepperhead212
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I've been buying ingredients from Chinese markets since early 80s, and the SE Asian markets since the later 80s, and I'm still alive.
Importing laws are pretty strict. into both Canada and the US
jennyema
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“ from the orient”.
Seriously?
Seriously?
pictonguy
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No more than any other Country. There's restrictions placed upon certain food products, ingredients, additives that each Country have for the importation based on their laws. Some foods from the USA are banned in many countries and visa versa. The term "orient" is rather an odd geopolitical term that personally isn't really appropriate today, where it might have been 100-150 years ago. imo
The only time I see the word "Orient" anymore is on self named Oriental massage parlors. There's one here that is in an actual pagoda ish style building. It's on a very large plot of land and set way back from the street with parking in back, just a couple of blocks from a huge manufacturing plant, with lots of warehouse businesses on the other side. I have a feeling more than massage goes on there
The Asian origin canned and jarred foods we have purchased have all been fine.
The Asian origin canned and jarred foods we have purchased have all been fine.
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Yes, among other things, some human trafficking probably goes on there. Sadly, we have those places here in Dallas, and they are probably in every big city.
My mom and sister refer to Asians as "oriental." I correct them, and they tell me I am "PC."
CD
Linda0818
Head Chef
Oh for bless
I've always said Asians.
As for canned foods purchased from Asian countries, from what I can find, canned food from China "may not meet American safety standards." Depends on the food, how it's processed and says there's a higher risk of BPA in canned goods purchased from Asian stores. The processing and handling is where some trouble may start.
Another quote - "Most Chinese food imports are processed to some degree, and the most common problems cited by FDA—“filth”, unsafe additives, inadequate labeling, and lack of proper manufacturer registrations— are typically introduced during food processing and handling."
I've never gotten sick from buying food from Asian markets. I haven't bought many canned goods, though. I usually grab jarred sauces and the prepared foods, that are made there in the store (as far as I know) like dumplings, pork buns, etc. Oh and snacks. I love prawn crisps and other snacks Asian markets normally carry.
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In terms of Asian, from most to least, the top populations are Chinese, Indian, Filipino.
Safety, @georgevan you mean safety-health, not any other kind of safety, correct?
As an example, chinese canning practicies, if you do a deep dive you can find video of one chinese food processing plant, putting things into tomato paste that are not put on the label, illegal by chinese standards but it's happening anyways. However, import laws protect some populations, but Africa gets most of the substandard tomato paste. (Africans deserve much better than this! Poverty causes this.)
Or look at turmeric, it is adulterated with a form of lead to make it look more yellow, be careful that you buy turmeric that's been tested by a 3rd party. Cinnamon is another like this.
Health wise, a holistic approach is to limit canned or dried food including herbs and spices from other countries. Same with medications and supplements. At least see if a 3rd party does testing for lead, cadmium, arsenic... And also avoid exposure to pesticides and herbicides, don't work in an area where there is exposed asbestos. Pay attention to the air quality. All these things add up in the human body and by the time we reach 50 or 60, the accumulation may be parkinsons disease for example. Numerous diseases show up later in life.
Safety, @georgevan you mean safety-health, not any other kind of safety, correct?
As an example, chinese canning practicies, if you do a deep dive you can find video of one chinese food processing plant, putting things into tomato paste that are not put on the label, illegal by chinese standards but it's happening anyways. However, import laws protect some populations, but Africa gets most of the substandard tomato paste. (Africans deserve much better than this! Poverty causes this.)
Or look at turmeric, it is adulterated with a form of lead to make it look more yellow, be careful that you buy turmeric that's been tested by a 3rd party. Cinnamon is another like this.
Health wise, a holistic approach is to limit canned or dried food including herbs and spices from other countries. Same with medications and supplements. At least see if a 3rd party does testing for lead, cadmium, arsenic... And also avoid exposure to pesticides and herbicides, don't work in an area where there is exposed asbestos. Pay attention to the air quality. All these things add up in the human body and by the time we reach 50 or 60, the accumulation may be parkinsons disease for example. Numerous diseases show up later in life.
Well, human trafficking is certainly a possibility, but I was thinking more along the lines of extra special, warm and wet massages.
Sir_Loin_of_Beef
Chef Extraordinaire
Oriental food is just about as risky as oriental rugs.
Aunt Bea
Master Chef
I’ve never had a problem with imported foods but I have to admit that I am a bit squeamish about some things.
Why is it we don’t worry about imported champagne, caviar, chocolate, etc…
Why is it we don’t worry about imported champagne, caviar, chocolate, etc…
Linda0818
Head Chef
Maybe people say to themselves "Well, if I die from drinking and eating these things, at least I'll die happy."I’ve never had a problem with imported foods but I have to admit that I am a bit squeamish about some things.
Why is it we don’t worry about imported champagne, caviar, chocolate, etc…
Oh for bless
I've always said Asians.
As for canned foods purchased from Asian countries, from what I can find, canned food from China "may not meet American safety standards." Depends on the food, how it's processed and says there's a higher risk of BPA in canned goods purchased from Asian stores. The processing and handling is where some trouble may start.
Another quote - "Most Chinese food imports are processed to some degree, and the most common problems cited by FDA—“filth”, unsafe additives, inadequate labeling, and lack of proper manufacturer registrations— are typically introduced during food processing and handling."
I've never gotten sick from buying food from Asian markets. I haven't bought many canned goods, though. I usually grab jarred sauces and the prepared foods, that are made there in the store (as far as I know) like dumplings, pork buns, etc. Oh and snacks. I love prawn crisps and other snacks Asian markets normally carry.
Do you remember the tainted dog food from China that killed a bunch of dogs? It killed two of my parent's dogs about two weeks apart.
CD
Linda0818
Head Chef
Yes, I remember. That was awful. I'm so sorry about your mom and dad's pets. That is so heartbreaking.
It scared me to death because, at the time, we still had our 3 Dachshunds (all of them are gone now) and I recall reading every dog food label, even though I had no idea what I was doing, and cooking them more homemade meals, looking up recipes on the internet for home cooked meals for dogs.
Awful awful awful thing that happened. And shouldn't have.
Canada does not allow dog food (dry) to be brought in from the States as they contain foods that Canada does not approve.
Look up recalls for Cosco or other large stores. Some are only found after people get sick from either e-coli, hepatitis, other things as non-food, plastics, metals. Even our own countries industries are not immune to errors, human or not.
eg. Kirland brand Frozen Strawberries, March 2023, 9 people sick due to hepatitis. Cosco's Chicken Salad, 2015, 19 people ill from e-coli, turned out to be the celery and onions (and not the chicken)
eg. Kirland brand Frozen Strawberries, March 2023, 9 people sick due to hepatitis. Cosco's Chicken Salad, 2015, 19 people ill from e-coli, turned out to be the celery and onions (and not the chicken)
Linda0818
Head Chef
Yeah and the states shouldn't approve them either. We're super lax, in my opinion, with food regulations. There are a lot of foods allowed here that are banned in places like Europe and Canada.
With all the food dyes and additives and who knows what, we eat crap.
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